in so cal. had oakley since they first came out.. (ok.. unsure when but i do recall sometime in the 80's buying some.. or was it the 90's? was looking at getting some pit bosses and was wanting to know how to spot a fake. use ebay lot and look at some of the feedback as to get a general idea of who is selling fakes. not keen on spending 600 on a new pair .. 400 is pushing the limit.. at that point i could get a "normal" frame and 2 polarized lens for 400.. still on fence. great site and looking to learn more!