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  1. OakleyFreak

    OakleyFreak RIP RoTors

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    Just curious
    I have found that the stems on my serial # version of Juliets will close without touching the frame.
    My non serial seemed to touch the frame when closed

    On another note, I had purchased a new set of Juliets from the vault. Like 3 years ago
    When I got them Box and coin and all , the stems collapsed hit the frames
    I called Oakley, they didnt really have an answer, But they did take them back.

    Just curious if anyone else has noticed the same
     
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  2. kronin323

    kronin323 Font of Useless Knowledge Premium Member

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    Some touch, some don't. It's not really isolated to serialed vs. non-serialed. More of a random luck of the draw.
     
  3. qtrain23

    qtrain23 3D Printing Protege

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    Yea I've been able to figure out what causes it either. They look identical. Maybe x man has figured it out.
     
  4. OakleyFreak

    OakleyFreak RIP RoTors

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    I really think its build quality
    But would like to get other opinions as well.
    I cant tell you how many pair of juliets I didnt buy because the stems hit the orbitals
     
  5. kronin323

    kronin323 Font of Useless Knowledge Premium Member

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    The casting methods required for x-metals unavoidably introduced a certain degree of minor variation from batch to batch. This is most often seen with the orbitals, where one lens is a little loose (or, with XX, too tight). Another example is when you set them on a countertop and only one earstem tip contacts the countertop. This stem/frame contact is another, I believe. It's just the nature of the beast.

    They did continue to refine their processes over the years, but these issues never went away. For example with the loose lens issue, the final design, XS, has built-in shims (something people had been doing DIY with earlier frames).

    If you want to call it a lack of build quality, fine. But realize x-metals were doing something they were told couldn't be done. I think it's more accurately described as variances within a tolerance.
     
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  6. Jontoad

    Jontoad Oakley Expert

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    well it is build quality, but that is what you get with hand made products. they are not cookie cutter pieces. one of the two pairs of Juliets i have touches, but only on one side. so i can't say it's different generations, but maybe differences in who used the dremmel tool that day. lol. grind/sand a little bit more off the orbital by the hinge where the stem hits, or a little more off the stem where it hits the orbital by the hinge and it makes that difference.
     
  7. pjd1234

    pjd1234 X METAL NERD

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    hmmmm some of mines do touch the frames, but does that really matter?? x metals are hand made from scratch individually so I guess none are absolutely the same, same with the lenses they wiggle on some of the frames, some don't. If your going to be picky on the stems hitting the orbitals I guess you have to open and test them first b4 buying, but they were sealed at one point so thats a tough cookie, so my opinion is love them or hate them it is what it is just don't close em all the way through.
     
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  8. xmetalmaniac

    xmetalmaniac Made of Metal Premium Member Lifetime Member

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    A few things I have noticed in the past is nosebridge tightness, angle of orbitalin nosebridge and the small earstem nub which stops the earstem from closing all the way. If any of this is slightly off the earstem will touch the orbital. I have seen this in older serialed models and some of the last made.

    I have noticed that the earstem closing and touching the bottom portion of the orbital causes a wear mark on them after repeated use. I am going to chalk it all up to minor manufacturing errors. Just know the limits of the frame and what you can and can't do.
     
  9. MJLSr

    MJLSr Oakley Expert

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    X-Metals are like snowflakes - no two are exactly alike :)
     
  10. discostu

    discostu Oakley Expert Premium Member

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    +1 ....Just a little more expensive than snowflakes, mores the pity! ;)