I hate em´......you get light in from above, no way to avoid it, especially if you look up ,but even if you don´t, i clearly see the holes in the Peripheral vision, and wind is also a issue, i don´t ride bikes but i still don´t want wind in the eyes........i think Oakley makes way to many glasses with vented lenses, almost all new models have vented lenses, jawbreaker and radar EV for instance ........