ah good to know. I haven't been able to find any for sale over here or anything about them. ill keep an eye out for them locally and if I see a bargain ill grab them. are there any styles or colourways that are more desirable than others? I know little about PB either but they are a great frame to wearI’ve never had a pit boss but monster dogs are an awesome frame. They have a similar shape but no titanium plates obviously.and no they don’t make them any more I wish they did