I refuse to own an iphone or ipadd and it was wife's choice for the imac I might feel different if I kept up on cyber/tech things but I will always hate cell phones...I think the lux /oakley thing has been beat into the ground by me among others...if people like whats coming out of 1 Icon since 2007 then I am glad...its just not the same ...but I may have outlived my time with Oakley anyway...I know if the Twenty had gone OCP they could have snagged a few bux from me...but I guess they didnt sell...