okay guys, first, I was on ebay and you know how i was looking for an enduring in Cinder Red and polarised lenses. I found one that wasnt ridiculously expensive- and the display photo looked like this, listed as new without tags: i snagged it for a pretty good deal, and then the seller tells me "sorry, jsut as we were packing it, we found a scratch on the lens, we can offer you a discount, or a full refund" so i say "how big, and how bad? send me a photo" so i get this: and i say "thats not so bad. Give me a 10% discount and we got a deal" THen i looked again. WHERE ARE THE DAMN EARSOCKS? I ask" im assuming you will be attaching earsocks? and it comes with the case, cloth and extras right?" and i get "no sorry, its listed as new without tags, therefore has no case, cloth or earsocks." so i reply "give me a refund please. Without those items, this pair of sunglasses arent even complete, and are just essentially 'parts'. I get my refund. seller is great to deal with, just one of those things that happens if you dont look closely.. its a whole shipping here and there debacle.. narrowly avoided. *note: text isnt exact. i summarised haha.