When I say new to the game I mean the Xmetal game. Got the xsquared from ucdavis and got the 24kxx on ebay for a great price. Other than a few knicks on the lenses and the usual wearing off on the tips these were great. Nose bridge was super lose but xman to the rescue and they are super tight now. Xman told me he had never seen a pair so loose but he is the man and got these back to form .