When you post these things, please include a pic of the frames you're referencing. The guy has done thousands. Most likely he can do what you're looking for. If this is a colorway you seek, then maybe put these in the maybe not pretty rough category.I MUST and I mean MUUUUST have a set of those White frames @THE X-MAN Is the coloring pretty stout? I may or may not be pretty rough on these things......