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I don't think the frames are 'fluid' enough for C -wires.
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Also they look like vintage c wire ones so now I'm really stumped
the ones in the picture that look like mine are vintage c wire, why do you say they can't be funky-trickster?Can't be C-Wires then.
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Also they look like vintage c wire ones so now I'm really stumped