another discussion with the frogs lol. Nothing is wrong with them frogs. its just that Oakley made and evolved better frames. Frogs will always be a staple frame for Oakley as they are cheap to produce and people buys em. Of all the frames these has been around the longest if I'm not mistaken. discontinuing the frog is like discontinuing the corvette imo. HARDCORE FANS or old timers will always love these frames, but for the new comers most don't find them attractive. I was at one time, but that changed .