Yes, I totally agree, these up besides the Penny OEM copper, make the Penny look dull and like someones effort was lacking. Kinda a pinkish no polish copper. Has its place, but yes this is the best. I bet if every member saw one in person, they immediately would have to have one in their collection, let alone wear all the time. @CarGuy, me, and several others have said the coppers are now their daily wearers and with the availability of new lens colors they really pop. I like them much better than Gold. Gold is too bling, but the copper although shiny and noticeable remains kinda subtle.