There is a Bob head/torso that looks in pretty good shape on the Detroit/Flint CL. She is asking 500$ but I did speak to her and 400$ is probably the lowest she will go, it is at a used store-fixtures store. I was thinking about it but really have no use or an extra 400$ to blow!! She did e-mail me some pics and the underside is all black, not white!! I am heading over that way Friday and may have a look at it but probably won't buy it.