I have a question that may help others looking at this thread. Since cell phones I no longer collect watches, but my son has taken over my watch collection so they went to a good dude, lol!!!! I kept my favorite SS Luminox Blackout and one dress watch that never gets worn bUT gAve all the rset to him. What is the real quality of Oakley watches or is it all over the place? Does Oakley actually make them? I figured they just sub'd all the manufacturing out and slapped their name on the dial. I can remember the first bright red digital watches made by Timex in the 70's, lol!!!!! I know you can buy a watch at the dollar tree that will keep decent time for most people, but for those in the known where do you consider the quality of Oakley to fall when compared to other known manufacturers? Thanks for the schooling?