Guns and Shooting Glasses Thread!

[XxRuMKaxX]

Well I know I use to use gunbroker but our great democratic governor passed a bill and gun broker had to start charging us tax before no tax and when ur spending lots of money on guns all that tax adds up. Uncle Sam gets enough of my money so I look also for sites that dont charge u tax lol and on that DP-12 that could be well over a hundred bucks in your pocket. Anyways what I’m saying is search for best deal. That’s what I do.

Yea.... Like I told customers... by the time you pay $35 shipping, then tax, then our $75 FFL fee you are right where you would be having just come here and bought it from us.... Margins of profit on a gun is between 15% to 20% and it takes a business making 40% to 50% in order to pay the bills and make a profit so the margins on guns really sucks... a business could NOT stay open if all they sold were guns. Optics markup is not much better... all the money is in slings and accessories and fishing and clothes and other areas of the stores but guns bring people to the store so they are necessary. Silencers are not eve 10% unless you take on doing all the paperwork yourself then it only goes up to about 18%.

Ammo is a lost leader as well... one of the WORST margins.... like 10% at best markup ....

So when you go in and ask them to throw that box of ammo in with the gun... this is why we say no to that anymore....

Blame Wal Mart for all of this...

 

[DrDust57]

U love Walmart. lol

 

[DrDust57]

$75 FFL fee that is Steep !!! 25 best I pay at my FFL I use in town!!

 

[DrDust57]

Yea.... Like I told customers... by the time you pay $35 shipping, then tax, then our $75 FFL fee you are right where you would be having just come here and bought it from us.... Margins of profit on a gun is between 15% to 20% and it takes a business making 40% to 50% in order to pay the bills and make a profit so the margins on guns really sucks... a business could NOT stay open if all they sold were guns. Optics markup is not much better... all the money is in slings and accessories and fishing and clothes and other areas of the stores but guns bring people to the store so they are necessary. Silencers are not eve 10% unless you take on doing all the paperwork yourself then it only goes up to about 18%.

Ammo is a lost leader as well... one of the WORST margins.... like 10% at best markup ....

So when you go in and ask them to throw that box of ammo in with the gun... this is why we say no to that anymore....

Blame Wal Mart for all of this...

I usually do all the math when I buy and sometimes u just break even lol I try not to loose lol

 

[XxRuMKaxX]

$75 FFL fee that is State 25 best I pay at my FFLI use in town

We started at $25 but boss got tired of his guys time being spent on FFL transfers when he was paying us that a hour to be there so he raised it to $50 to slow it down but it only slowed it a little so he went to $75 and it cut down how many were coming in each day.... you gotta equate that a gun coming in has about 10 minutes of process time to record it then to release it takes 20 - 30 minutes IF the background check is fast. Then another 10 minutes to wrap it up and collect the funds... so almost 1 hour of an employees time is spent on a gun just processing it in and out... makes no sense to break even in business...

 

[XxRuMKaxX]

U love Walmart. lol

I will not even step foot in there to buy toothpaste... Walmart treated my autistic son like a piece of just because he was having a hard time communicating at the pharmacy then booted me out of the store when I went up there to confront the individual. It was shocking to me how they reacted from start to finish... not like I went in threatening anyone they just did not like being called out... kinda like some members on the forum here get bent and you have to block them when the truth gets told...

 

[Mystiko Neossia]

Order one online and have it shipped to your closest FFL that’s how I did mine. Just saying if u want it bad enough. lol

I found a FFL near me for $40 per transfer. I might go ahead and buy it from the manufacturing website. What type of shotgun shells do you buy? Slugs or buckshot? I know indoor ranges only allow slug rounds. Did you ever take your shotguns to a range? Also any ammo brands you recommend for the DP-12? @XxRuMKaxX @DrDust57

 

[XxRuMKaxX]

I found a FFL near me for $40 per transfer. I might go ahead and buy it from the manufacturing website. What type of shotgun shells do you buy? Slugs or buckshot? I know indoor ranges only allow slug rounds. Did you ever take your shotguns to a range? Also any ammo brands you recommend for the DP-12? @XxRuMKaxX @DrDust57

I recommend a mix of the two... Depends on how "fair" a chance you want to give a perpetrator as well... If you want to shoot them dead and there is no chances then all slugs, first shot maybe dead and second for sure dead then OO buck or a self defense buck configuration, gonna give you one chance to live with pain and then you are dead, 8 shot 1st round, buck 2nd, slugs after that. Na I do not really want to kill you but you will never forget me either, 8-9 shot wide patterned.

The science of shotgun ammo is this... primer, powder, wad, kill beads, encased in plastic. What kill beads you want to use is really based on how much damage you want to inflict. They even have slugs like the 380 ammo I showed a few post back. When it hits it expands into a 4 inch copper star and tears exactly that big a hole in what it hits.

My advice is to get it and get a couple boxes of target loads and go blow some **** through it. You need to function the gun and break it in as well as train your brain for what to expect if assaulted as far as your gun goes. It is never a good thing to try and get use to safeties and triggers and functions, and possible malfunctions and what causes them when the other guy is coming at you. You also want to determine if you really want a 12ga shell being discharged 4-6 inches from your shoulder and the recoil involved with bull pups.

I went to a 410ga and if you research the ammo for it you will see why... there is some really wicked self defense rounds in the 410 and the recoil is not even worth mentioning. 12ga sounds cool until it leaves a healthy bruise on your shoulder and ego LOL! I would rather keep my 12ga action a full stock away from my shoulder.

 

[XxRuMKaxX]

I found a FFL near me for $40 per transfer. I might go ahead and buy it from the manufacturing website. What type of shotgun shells do you buy? Slugs or buckshot? I know indoor ranges only allow slug rounds. Did you ever take your shotguns to a range? Also any ammo brands you recommend for the DP-12? @XxRuMKaxX @DrDust57

Also... go to your dealer first with the sku # and give him a chance to order it... if he can then your money stays in your community and helps him stay in business... if he cannot then order it online.

The SD shotgun market is really soft last I checked and allot of dealers are not stoking anything hardly but all dealers can order just about any gun. When he gives you the price remember there is no FFL fee or shipping cost in that price. Even if its a touch more... you are helping him pay his employees paying it.

 

[XxRuMKaxX]